3-Gun in Canada

CHAS 3 gun

I couldn’t find a lot of starter info on gearing up for 3-gun competition as practiced here in Canada, so I thought I’d put together a ton of info specific to Canada as I found it. Don’t care about shotguns and pistols? Check out my article on Canadian Service Conditions Competition. Disclaimer: I’m just an “internet expert” and don’t really know anything. But I like shooting.

Interested in finding a 3 Gun Match in Canada? Check out my new dedicated 3 gun Canada site, 3gun.ca

Pistols for 3 Gun in Canada

S&W M&P 9mm

M&P

FNS9L with grip tape

Modified Glock 34

Pistols used in Canada closely mirror what is popular in the US. Even though we’re limited to 10 round magazines, aftermarket support and prices are still very similar to that in the US. Glock’s, M&P’s, SR9’s, CZ’s, STI’s, Tangfoglio’s and all sorts of interesting stuff on the higher end of the price range. One difference that you may see in a Canadian 3-gun match is that some competitors will be rocking inexpensive Norinco 1911’s and NP34’s. At around $300, these Norinco pistols are a very cheap way to get into pistol sport, though their fit and finish leave a lot to be desired. 9mm is clearly the most inexpensive and popular caliber used. The CZ SP-02 has a fantastic single stage trigger, but is slightly more complicated (with a safety & hammer) than a simple striker-fired pistol like a Glock, M&P, Ruger American, or FNS.

Here are some options across the price range, and their going rate in CDN$.

  • Norinco NP29 9mm: Around $350
  • Canik TP9SA: $560
  • S&W M&P 2.0: $589
  • IWI Jericho Range Kit: $650
  • FN FNS9 Long slide: $615
  • Glock 17: $800
  • CZ SP-02 Shadow: $1,250
  • Glock 34 MOS: $1,300
  • Tangfoglio Stock III XTREME: $1,800

When you’re picking a pistol, don’t forget that you’ll need 5 magazines (more if you’re running a 45acp 1911), a holster, and magazine pouches. Some of the more inexpensive or less popular handguns are difficult to get decent holsters and mag pouches for. Don’t buy a weird pistol and then try to run it with a shitty textile holster.

Shotguns for 3-Gun in Canada

Magpul SGA Stock Rem 870

Remington 870 with extension tube

Browning A5

Beretta 1301 Competition

Beretta 1301 Comp

There are some special considerations due to magazine restrictions here in Canada. Pump shotguns are not limited in magazine capacity, but semi-automatic shotguns are limited to magazines that hold 5 rounds of the length that the shotgun was designed for. That last part is important, and you’ll see why in a minute. So, you’ve got:

  • Pump shotguns with no limits on magazine tube extensions
  • Pump shotguns with no limits on box magazines
  • Semi-automatic shotguns with limits on tube magazines
  • Semi-automatic shotguns with limits on box magazines

Pump shotguns with tube magazines can be the cheapest way to get into the sport. Most commonly, these are Remington 870’s and Mossberg 500-series shotguns with extensions that crank up magazine capacity from 4 rounds to 6-8. (depending on your barrel length and how far you want to go) If you go with a bullpup, dual tube shotgun like the UTAS UTS-15 or Kel Tec KSG, you’ll have 15 rounds in your pump action, but reloading and jam clearing are a lot more difficult than with a typical pump action. Some stages also limit how many shells you can start with, eliminating the advantage of running a shotgun like this.

Pump shotguns with box magazines, such as the SAP-6 and Brixia/Valtro PM5 provide a much faster way to reload and a huge capacity with 11 round magazines. BUT, check your local club’s 3-gun rules, as mag-fed shotguns may put you into a higher class like open.

Semi-automatic shotguns with tube magazines are limited to 5 rounds, but that’s not the end of the story. Because if you’re using 2 3/4 shells in a shotgun designed to hold (5) 3.5″ shells (like a Remington Versa-max), you’ll be able to fit (7) 2 3/4″ shells in the tube, 1 in the chamber, and 1 ghost loaded and still be legal. It doesn’t have to make sense, it’s Canadian law. Check out my article on Canadian Shotgun capacity if you’re interested in learning more. Generally, higher cost semi-automatic shotguns are more reliable.

Semi-automatic shotguns with box magazines are limited to 5 round magazines, period. Here in Canada, options include the non-restricted LA K12 Puma and the restricted Akdal MKA 1919. There’s also a Norinco (M1000?) semi auto, mag fed shotgun, but everyone I know who has had one has had issues with them.

Just a quick note on chokes: try to get a shotgun that has some kind of choke. Cylinder-bore on a short barrel makes birdshot spread quick and you may have problems knocking down plates on a Texas star if you’re rocking a tactical shotgun with a short, cylinder-bore barrel. Most of the competitions I go to are well served with an IC or M choke.

Some sample pump action shotguns and prices

Semi auto shotguns and prices:

Rifles for 3-Gun in Canada

AR15

AR-15. Done. It’s restricted, but so is your pistol. If you want a rifle that is going to serve as a hunting/bush rifle as well as a competition rifle, you’re going to need to pay a lot more. The AR-15 is clearly the most popular rifle used in the sport and for good reason:

  • Ammo is inexpensive
  • They can be had for little money ($699 for an M&P Sport)
  • It’s easy to add optics
  • Magazines are very inexpensive, and can be had with capacities higher than 5 using LAR15 mags (10 rounds) or Beowulf mags (13-16)
  • Ergonomics are easy to learn and fast
  • Aftermarket part selection is HUUUUUGE

Beyond the AR15, there are a few other rifles that can be seen at a Canadian 3-gun competition:

Robinson XCR rifles are a lot more expensive and are a decent choice if you want something that feels similar to an AR-15 but non-restricted. These are the only other real option here. The below rifles are not great for this kind of shooting.

IWI Tavor’s are OK, but the height over bore of optics can make shooting a barricade with smaller ports difficult. It can be more difficult to access magazines from some tighter prone positions compared to non-bullpup rifles but if you train for it, you can be quick. Tavor’s are costlier, and benefit greatly from adding on an expensive trigger pack if you need to do longer distance shooting.

Norinco T97’s suffer from somewhat poor ergonomics and need the FTU to decently mount optics, but are an OK budget option if you want your 3-gun rifle to be non restricted.

CSA VZ58’s in .223 with the magwell adapter that let you use AR mags can be more competitive. They’re still a bit more involved to mount optics on compared to an AR, but at least they’re non restricted.

Mini-14’s, SKS’s, Norinco M14’s, SVT-40’s, etc are generally poor choices due to ammunition cost and/or magazine cost and restrictions. The Mini-14 is limited to 5 rounds per mag in Canada and those magazines are god-awful expensive. SKS’s and SVT-40’s are limited to 5 rounds and can be fed by stripper clip which is going to be a lot slower. Also, check if your local range allows for the type of ammo you’re using (some don’t like when you use steel-core ammo on metal targets.) M14’s would be OK except for the cost of feeding the beasts. They’re also a bit more painful to add optics to.

So, here are some example rifle options for Canadian 3-gunners:

  • SKS: $200 (if your range allows, and you have to find non-steel core ammo)
  • Norinco AR-15: $550
  • CSA VZ58 with magwell adapter: $1100
  • Daniel Defense M4 Mk18: $1500
  • Robinson XCR: $2400
  • IWI Tavor TAR21: $2500
  • Bushmaster ACR DMR: $3300

That all said, an AR-15 of some flavor is easily the most pragmatic choice you can make.

Rifle Optics

If you’re in Limited class, your choice of optics is a red dot or iron sights, but if you’re in Tactical or above, you’ve got some choice. If your local club is limited in range, a red dot will be fast and easy to use. If your range has some longer distances available, you should look at a red dot + swing magnifier combo or a 1-4 scope. An illuminated 1-4 with a lever on the zoom ring for fast changes, plus a ballistic reticle of some sort that offers bullet drops at set ranges will be the most flexible. If you’re having trouble picking one, I’ve got a whole article on 1-4 scopes here. I used to use a Bushnell AR223 1-4, now I use a Primary Arms 1-6 ACSS.

Belt vs Tactical Vest vs Battle-belt

To carry your gear, there are a few options.

1.5″ competition belts come in a few different styles:

  • Plastic buckle quick connection. Easy to put on, but can’t be easily run through your pant belt loops to hold on your pants unless you thread on your holster and mag pouches at the same time.
  • Inner/Outer belt hook and loop style. Inner belt can be worn like a regular belt, outer holds your gear and can be put on or taken off pretty quickly. Double Alpha, CR Speed, etc.
  • Safariland ELS Belt has set spots for gear. Very secure and easy to index gear locations and have them never move.

These belts are generally a better option for competition and gear that uses 1.5″ belts is generally optimized for cost and competition. That said, these belts suck in winter as they don’t work well when you’re wearing a jacket. That can be a consideration if you’re in a part of Canada that gets snow in Spring when the first matches start to occur.

It’s generally trivial to find great holsters and magazine pouches that work with 1.5″ belts, but it can be a bit tougher to find AR15 mag pouches at a reasonable price. Blade-tech AR-15 single mag pouches are $50 each from most places in Canada, which is kind of pricey. Competition shotshell carriers are generally built to use 1.5″ belts.

Tactical Vests, Plate Carriers, Chest Rigs, and other Load Bearing Equipment

Vests and other LBE come in a million different flavors. Many come with more AR pouches than you’ll ever need, some also come with pistol mag pouches. These rigs can be more comfortable to wear all day compared to a belt setup. The textile pouches that are used are usually just a bit slower because they use bungee cord or velcro to retain magazines. Most use MOLLE straps so that you can add or configure them to suit you. Shotshell holders built for these tactical vests aren’t generally built for speed. But, if you want lots of AR and pistol mag pouches for a relatively low price, a tac vest or chest rig can do the job and are readily available in Canada or ordered online. Vest-mounted, cross-draw pistol holsters aren’t allowed in some competitions. If you treat 3-gun as training for SHTF, I guess this is the gear you should run. Just be sure to shout “Wolverines!” before you start every stage.

Battle Belt

A battle belt is a kind of a mix of the two systems above. It uses MOLLE attachment points, and some even offer 1.5″ belt attachment points for a drop holster. These give you access to the textile style pistol and rifle mag pouches like the TACO and can be easily worn outside a jacket in cold weather. Many are padded and are not meant to replace a pant belt.

Belt Mag Pouches

Taccom sells inexpensive shotshell carriers that Canadians can buy direct from the Taccom website. Higher quality shotshell carriers like the Invictus Practical, AP Customs, and Carbon Arms are starting to come into Canada more regularly. CTC Supplies carries plenty of Invictus Practical shell carriers.

Pistol and rifle mag pouches are varied. If you want to start out with inexpensive, simple mag pouches, Blade Tek mag pouches are great. Their AR and double AR mag pouch is excellent. For pistol magazine pouches, the blade tek pouches are good as well, but need a screwdriver to adjust tension. Higher end pistol magazine pouches typically have some tool-less tension adjustment on the pouch itself.

Bringing Everything out to the Range

For ammo, I personally love the size of Canada Ammo’s “Fat Fifty” ammo can. It’s a bit wider than a typical 50 cal ammo can, and it seems to perfectly fit just what I need for a 3 gun match: 4 boxes of birdshot, 20 slugs, a big box of pistol ammo, and a few hundred rounds of 223.

For magazines, I used to just throw them in a range bag, but a guy at my range made this slick magazine pouch carrier. Again, it’s perfect for the task: it fits 6 pistol mags and 4 rifle mags, more than enough for a match.

For a case, I use a double rifle Plano case. There are better cases out there, but this one was $50 and it fits my shotgun, pistol, and rifle in it. I use combo locks on my guns and a combo lock for the case itself so that I never get stuck at the range on on the way to the range looking for my forgotten keys. Ahem, like my buddy Shawn.

For other things that I bring out to a 3 gun match: eye protection, ear plugs AND electronic muffs, sunscreen (this kids stuff has a lockable cap so it won’t spray out in your bag), mosquito spray, food for the match, backup bars in case, and tools just in case. This leatherman has come in handy lots of times!

Inexpensive 3 Gun Loadout

Here’s the cheapest setup I could think of:

Pistol: $500-600 + 2 more mags ($100)

Pump Action Shotgun+mag tube extension: $350

Norinco AR15 or S&W Sport: $600

AR Mags: $80

Belt: $50

Shotshell holders: $100 – $300

2 AR mag pouches: $80

At minimum, it’s about $1700 to fully gear up. It will be cheaper if you already have some of the firearms or gear.

Where to Buy 3 Gun Gear in Canada

I had a heck of a time sourcing 3 gun gear, so I thought I’d document where I found things along the way.

Brownells | US | ships to Canada and has a huge inventory. Crappy exchange rate between CDN and USD right now.

MD Gardner | Port Coquitlam, BC | Big focus on competition gear. Lots of Double Alpha (AA), Blade Tech, timers, mag wells.

CTC Supplies | Vancouver, BC | More tactical parts, good selection of shot shell carriers, lots of Magpul, AR mags, AR-parts,

Select Shooting Supplies | SW Ontario | Some unique magazine pouches, APEX parts for M&P pistols, Glock parts, mag and gun storage systems, all kinds of interesting stuff.

Freedom Ventures | Halifax, NS | All sorts of competition gear. Good selection of upper end competition pistols.

The Shooting Edge | Calgary, AB | Mag pouches, competition pistols,

Questar | Barrie, ON | Glock parts, AR parts, AR’s, Magazines

Calgary Shooting Centre | Calgary, AB | Firearms, optics, mags.

Tactical Products Canada | | Magazines, AR parts, Magpul,

Frontier Firearms | Magazines, slings, AR parts, firearms, holsters, tactical vests,

One Shot Tactical Supply | | Mag pouches, firearms, AR parts, slings,

SFRC | Harrowsmith, ON | Excellent inventory of all sorts of stuff

 

Did I miss a dealer or grossly mess up something in this article? Let me know in the comments and I’ll fix it!

  • Strewth

    Very good article, thanks for taking the time to do this.

  • Joe McDonald

    Seraphim armored out of bc a good source for well made pistols that are relatively inexpensive

  • Russ

    What about guns like the jr carbine and m1 carbine in in 30 or 9mm

    Also revolvers is there a class for that ?

  • AR-15’s are pretty far superior to JR Carbines and M1 Carbines. If your 3 gun shoots at your club are close range only, you won’t need the much better ballistics on the 223, but you’ll still have to get a ton of magazines and ammo for your rifle. JR would be ok for that, the M1 wouldn’t work nearly as well as an AR. At medium range (200-300 yards), the AR is far superior. For classifications, check your nearby range because rules and classes vary quite a bit. My range doesn’t have a revolver class, because there aren’t enough people who have a revolver and have the gear for shooting 3 gun with it.

  • Olivier Jeanson

    what barrel lenght would you recommend with the ar 15 ?

  • For a Canadian? 14.5″ is a nice blend of short and handy, but long enough that you’re getting decent velocity for long range hits.

  • Logan

    Are there any regularly occurring 3 gun matches in the kamloops/Salmon arm/Kelowna areas?

  • Sean

    I would add wolverine supplies in virden mb. They are reaching more and more into 3gun with invictus gear and armalite ar’s

  • Bron

    Great article. Any opinions on the SIG Sauer® P320 Full-Size for 3 gun? Seems to be gaining popularity. Looking at $944.90 with 5 mag and the provided holster.

  • I can’t say that I see a lot of them at matches. For $1000, more shooters choose to get into a used CZ SP-01 Shadow 1 with all the goodies which is more of a gamer pistol for this kind of shooting. As far as striker-fired, polymer frame pistols, Glocks and M&P’s appear to be much more popular in Canada. I can’t see that you’d be giving anything up by using one, just that I don’t see them that often.

  • Jumping Jack

    What do you guys think of the S&W M&P Sport II? Also, can anyone confirm if the LAR-15 mags fit snug?

  • Clayton Severo Altares

    Are you allowed to use 10 round pistol mags for your rifle?

  • Yes. Canadian law is on the magazine and what it’s designed for, not what you end up using it in. Most people use LAR15 mags with couplers on the bottom.

  • Check 3Gun.ca for more matches across the country.

  • George Dutch

    Where to 3 gun in Alberta?

  • Dude, you’re spoiled for choice in Alberta. Mighty Peace, CHAS near Edmonton, Cold Lake in the East, Medicine Hat in the south, and BTSA near Calgary. All Canadian events are at 3gun.ca as well.

  • Nick Lui

    Check out 3-Gun Calgary on Facebook

  • Nick Lui

    CDTSA also does big 3-gun matches.

  • Can you provide a link? I couldn’t find it with some googling.

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