338 Lapua vs 50 BMG

338 Lapua Mag

From a hunting perspective, this is completely silly, but after I wrote my original article on 338 Lapua, I had multiple people contact me and ask that magical question, “what if you go bigger?”. Well, 50 BMG is about as big as you’re going to get, and while 338 Lapua is capable of taking all North American game animals at well beyond practical distances, the 50 does it bigger and better. It’s also a lot of fun to compare ballistics of the big 50 BMG to the smaller but still pretty big, 338 LM.

338 Lapua vs 50 BMG: Ballistics & Distance

Ballistics-wise, 50 BMG and 338 Lapua are somewhat similar, at least at sane ranges. Where they differ greatly is in 50 BMG’s much bigger, much heavier bullet’s ability to carry killing power far beyond the capabilities of the 338 Lapua. While the Lapua can only kill a deer at up to 1,800 yards, the mighty 50 BMG can do the same task at 3,300 yards. With a hilariously long flight time of 7 seconds, this is getting closer to field artillery skill than it is marksmanship.

338 Lapua Cost

Here’s where your wallet is really going to hurt. Neither of these platforms are particularly easy on the hunter on a budget. 338 Lapua rifles average around $2,000, but for that price you get a very ergonomic, accurate setup. With 47 ft-lbs of recoil, muzzle brakes are of course mandatory. Most 338 Lapua’s weigh in around 10 lbs, not too bad. Ammo cost is pretty horrific; unless you reload, you’re going to be looking at about $5 per round. Again, that $5 per round cost does come with some pretty high quality components. No core-lokt components here.

50 BMG Cost

Were those prices above hurtful? Wait till you get a load of 50 BMG costs. Remember the $5/round? Well, for 50 BMG, you’re looking at $11-$16/round for military surplus ammo. Not match ammo. If you’re looking at doing match ammo, you could be paying $5/round just for the bullet, nevermind the powder, primer, brass and other components. That all said, there are deals out there. TSE, for example, has 50 BMG ammo from PMC for the low low price of $5-$6, depending how much you buy. The rifles are also in a league of their own. A basic model like the CS-50 will run you just under $3000. A more advanced model will be higher. ATRS is a bit of a 50 BMG specialist, so if you’re in Canada, they’re your best option.

Hunting with 338 Lapua or 50 BMG

Hunting with the 338 Lapua is a lot more of a pain in the butt than with a regular rifle. The rifle is heavier, you can’t carry nearly the same amount of ammo in your pocket, and making standing shots is almost out of the question. However, I found packing around the Savage 111 LRH in 338LM to be fine. The long barrel tended to snag on a lot of things and cause the rifle to want to spin barrel down when in a sling, but otherwise I had no complaints. A rifle sporting 50 BMG is a bit of a different beast. While that Savage is 9 lbs, a simple 50 BMG like the CS-50 is just under 27 lbs. That makes handling around quads quite challenging, and long hikes could get painful. Hunting with either the 338 LM or 50 BMG requires robust hearing protection, and your hunting buddies will not want to hunt anywhere near you because of the fearsome blast. Firing while prone in snow or dust can cause a big cloud from the muzzle blast to obstruct your view (depending on the construction of your muzzlebrake.) All in all, hunting with either of these cartridges is a total pain in the ass compared to using tamer calibers.

50 BMG vs 338 Lapua Ballistics

50 BMG vs 338 Lapua Ballistics

 

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  • zipp

    I must correct the above remarks pertaining to cost between the two cartridges. In fact the 50 BMG ammo can be had for as little as 2.50 per round to as much as 8.00 per round. In general, the 50 can be fed for less money then some of the Lapua ammo. If you consider reloading, then the cost is more manageable. On the other hand, the 50 is not a “conventional cartridge.” Most of the equipment and components you will need for the 50 including for reloading will be different, specialized, and costly. The Lapua however, can be loaded on a standard press, using many conventional components.

  • zipp

    I think that hunting with these cartridges, mostly the 50, leaves me scratching my head in a pause. To each their own, but I think that the big 50 is far better suited for precise paper punching with sub moa accuracy at extreme range. Remember the 50 has the power to punch through a brick wall and destroy a target on the offside at over a mile away. What do you think happens to a soft target like a game animal, even at unimaginable ranges? It’s called mush!

  • I think the strength of the 50 can only be brought to bear when making really long distance shots on heavy game. The comparison for hunting sake is more of a fun exercise than anything.

  • In Canada or the US? I would imagine 50 is a lot cheaper in the US due to the very limited market up North. Factory ammo for both 338 Lapua and 50BMG are pretty pricey out here, but reloading makes things a lot cheaper.

  • zipp

    Yes sir, my apologies; I was referring to the US market.

  • zipp

    Interesting enough, I see a lot of folks in chatrooms comparing accuracy of these two cartridges. There are certainly many circular arguments that can be had about theory of inherent accuracy. Nonetheless, There are many that seem to discount the 50 As nothing more than an anti material round. True that the 50 definitely has anti material capability, But this is certainly not all that the 50 is. The 50 is one of those cartridges that does have a lot of inherent accuracy. A couple of the smallest 1000 yards groups I have ever heard of or seen have been produced by the 50 BMG.benchrest competitors like Skip Talbot, who produced a 5-sbot 1000 yard group measuring 2.6″ and later, Lee Rasmussen in 2009, producing a 5-shot 1000 yard group measuring 1.99″.
    I am not saying that the Lapua isn’t a great and inherently accurate cartridge, as it certainly is. What I do say is that perhaps due to lacking familiarity, some under value the accuracy of the 50 BMG.

  • hgray14

    Even on the best day, in the best conditions, few of us can make a shot even close to 1,800 yds, even with a big gun, like the 50, or a flat shooter, like the 338 Lapua. Comparing their stopping power for game beyond that range seems kind of pointless. And as pointed out by zipp, the 50 is going to destroy any chances you have at eating your kill, even out past the 2,000yd range. And although a 50 might be supre accurate at “shorter” yardages, like 1,000yds…a 50 is a significantly heavier rifle than a 338, in order to deal with a SIGNIFICANTLY higher recoil. (Is that number right? 47ft-lb vs. 314ft-lbs? That explains why nobody puts a lot of rounds through their 50.) I can’t imagine anyone wanting to lug around a 50 for hunting when a 338 Lapua will do the trick, for less, at less weight, and significantly less recoil. Even if I were setting it up on my back porch on a bench rest to take care of 1,000-1500yd game…I’d leave the 50 in the safe and pull out something more reasonable. I love my 50, but it is a big, heavy, expensive, butt-kicking toy. It helps people make longer shots, but is not practical in almost all but the most extreme situations.

  • You might be surprised at the wounds that 50 BMG inflicts. They’re significantly larger, but you still get a lot of meat out, unless you hit some bone. That said, I agree, there are more reasonable rounds for reasonable ranges. Shooting game reliably at ~1000 yards is still way out of reach for 99.9% of hunters out there. Even for the 0.1% that can, there are still lots of constraints to doing it. If you enjoy talking with other long range hunters, you may want to hit up http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/

  • sunsense

    “$11-$16”

    In the USA, amax 750Gr match rounds (complete bullets) sell in packs of 10 for around $5.39 – $7.00.

    For example…

    http://www.freedommunitions.com/50-BMG-A-Max-750-gr-New-p/fm50amax750n-b0010.htm

  • gplucas

    The 50 BMG is not a hunting round and is a pain when taken into the woods. On the range, you know you’ve been shooting after launching 20 rounds out to 1000 yards! Usually takes most people about an hour to stop smiling!

  • MaranathaMark

    I don’t know where the “Hunting Gear Guy” is buying his .50 BMG, but I can buy it all day long for $8 a round or less! I can buy Hornady VMAX 750 gr. hunting rounds for $70 for a box of 10 from Cabela’s. VMAX rounds are typically a little higher, I can go to Sportsman’s Guide and buy .50 BMG hunting rounds for under $6 per round! Maybe “The Hunting Gear Guy” should do a little research before penning his articles!

  • MaranathaMark

    I shoot a .300 Whtby Mag, when deer hunting, because I don’t expect to try to engage a deer beyond 300 yrds. I’ve shot a .50 BMG sniper rifle. My .300 Whtby works my shoulder over more so than the .50 BMG did. BUT the weight of the .50 is considerably more and unless I am at war, I don’t want to hump a 30+ lb. rifle all over the hills of KY. for 2 or 3 hours. The .338 Lapua is really too much cartridge for a white-tail deer at ranges under 400 yrds, and a should or hip hit with even my .300 Whtby will ruin most of the meat on the opposite side of the point of impact (talking about exit wounds big enough to stick your fist in). So unless you are hunting out West on the Prairie where you are going to run into 500+ yrd shots, the debate on which one is the best Deer cartridge is kinda like “Who’s better Superman or Batman”, debate! If you’re hunting grizzly or brown brown, then I would go as big as I could manage! LOL! I am leaning towards a 20 mm vuclan for bear hunting! LOL!

  • In Canada 🙁

  • MaranathaMark

    LOL! I am surprised you can even by a firearm in Canada! You should mention the country you are buying your equipment in. I can understand why it is so much more expensive. If the Democrats & Obama have their way, firearms and ammo will be banned completely in this country, soon.

  • Chad Meyer

    Every time I see yet another “comparison” between these two cartridges where its claimed that they are even CLOSE to comparable or similar, I have to laugh. No one that understands ballistics can possibly believe that. Similar velocities do not equal similar ballistics. .50 BMG is 3-4 times more powerful in terms of muzzle energy. That alone should be enough to stop these ridiculous comparisons before they even start. But its not because .338 is new and shiny and has benefited from a LOT of purchased propaganda. All aimed at creating the ultimate payoff for its designers and license holders in the form of a major U.S. military contract and the resulting license fees and royalties in perpetuity. Ultimately the U.S. military decided that the .338 Lapua doesn’t offer enough of an improvement at typical sniping ranges over even .300 Winchester Magnum to make it worth the cost and trouble of adopting on a large-scale basis. So anybody who runs around talking about it being comparable or similar to .50 BMG is either a clueless fanboy or a paid shill.

  • Chad Meyer

    .50 BMG can also be loaded on a “standard press”. The press just needs to be larger. 7/8″ dies are by far the most common but that doesn’t make them “standard” and there also is no “standard” height in the throat of the press. Lee Precision sells a .50 BMG “starter kit” including their Classic Cast press and dies for $250. And that press can also be used with 7/8″ dies by installing the included bushing.

  • Chad Meyer

    Not really. Its all about proper bullet selection. And since the .510 bullet diameter requires no expansion to make a large hole in an animal, you can use FMJ bullets for hunting purposes and you’ll just punch a 1/2″ entrance hole and a 1/2″ exit hole in something like a whitetail deer. And then the bullet will travel a few thousand more yards, lol. Its not the diameter of the bullet or velocity that blow big holes in things. Its the amount of energy transferred and what the bullet does on impact as far as expansion, fragmentation, etc.

  • Chad Meyer

    Most people don’t know that the entire formula for calculating ballistic coefficient was created using a .50 BMG FMJ military bullet as the “ideal” bullet in terms of ballistic performance, and assigning it a BC of “1” based upon its sectional density and aerodynamic performance. Which is why higher BCs are better. The closer in terms of sectional density and aerodynamic efficency a given bullet is to that “ideal” .50 BMG bullet, the higher its BC will be. But even the BEST .338 bullets come nowhere NEAR that “perfect” 1. While some .50 BMG bullets (created since the introduction of BC as a measure of bullet performance) actually have BCs HIGHER than 1 and on paper are therefore “better than ideal”.

  • Chad Meyer

    On a whim (I didn’t own a .50 at the time) I purchased a 10-round box of American Eagle 660-grain FMJ from Palmetto State Armory for $17.99 around New Years. I knew that I was just giving myself an excuse to someday actually purchase that “top of my bucket list” .50 BMG rifle. Then I used the current political situation and my interpretation of my income tax refund as “found money” to justify ordering a Safety Harbor SHTF upper NOW. But after 4 days of my order staying on “pending” status I called and got nothing but a voicemail saying “We’re gone to the SHOT SHOW until Jan. 25”. Which kind of pissed me off. Especially knowing that they would still probably try to charge me for “3-day shipping” on an order it took them 9 days to process. And then I didn’t even know for if the upper I wanted was “in stock” as the website stated in one place or subject to a “4-6 week delay” as stated in another place. And lo and behold after doing my taxes and getting a MUCH larger refund than I figured I’d get, I decided to shitcan the Safety Harbor order and instead ordered an Armalite AR-50A1 from Tombstone Tactical. I already own 25+ guns and reload/handload 12 or 13 different handgun and rifle cartridges, so I’m not intimidated by the .50 at all. But I will need a larger press. I’m thinking about the Lee Classic Cast .50 BMG kit.

  • Chad Meyer

    That depends entirely on your definition of “hunting”. YouTube is lousy with “hunting videos” that basically amount to guys benchrest shooting long distances using live animals as targets. 1000+ yard elk kills and the like. If you live in an area where you can drive to your “hunting” spot and set up the rifle and wait for the animals to show up and THAT is what you call “hunting”, then .50 BMG is just fine for hunting. Especially some of the “light” single-shot rifles and the AR upper conversions. Not all .50 BMG rifles weight 30+ pounds and are 5 feet long. And for record, I don’t consider any of what I mentioned in this comment “hunting”. I prefer still hunting and stalking on foot. Even sitting in a tree stand isn’t “hunting” in my book. Its waiting.

  • Chad Meyer

    Almost nothing you said in that comment is accurate. You may have trouble shooting that kind of distance, but if you know the distance and have a basic understanding of how to sight in and adjust a scope for elevation, shooting 1800 yards is no more technically demanding than shooting 180 yards. That’s what those little knobs are for, after all. As for people not shooting their .50s in volume, that’s also bullshit. I’m thinking of one YouTube video in particular where the guy is reloading .50 and has probably 100-150 empty cases stood up on the bench waiting to load them. And .50s are heavier to deal with higher recoil. They’re heavier because they have a 1/2″ bore and a long barrel is necessary to maximize the velocity potential of the cartridge. On a power-to-weight basis, .338 Lapuas are the fat pigs of the two. A .338 Lapua “sniper rifle” will weigh roughly 1/3-1/2 what a .50 BMG rifle weighs but is only capable of delivering about 1/3-1/4 as much bullet energy.

  • Chad Meyer

    In his book “Deer Rifles And Cartridges”, Dr. Wayne Van Zwoll said something along the lines of “if you have to shoot from further than 400 yards, you’re not much of a hunter”. And that is a fact. Sitting back at 500 or 1000 or 1500 yards and playing sniper on live animals is not hunting in any way, shape or form. It’s long-distance shooting using live animals for “targets” and maybe a backpack for a benchrest. It takes a hell of a lot more true skill to get within 100 yards of a wild animal on foot than it does to shoot one from 1000 yards. Personally, my best and favorite hunting experience EVER was the day I managed – through a combination of skill, luck and a lack of intelligence on the deer’s part – to successfully stalk within 10 FEET of a young whitetail doe. I wasn’t even wearing camo or scent-block or any of those other aids. I did it by staying downwind, moving very slowly at an angle to the deer and freezing in my tracks every time she raised her head and seemed alerted. It took me roughly 30 minutes from the time I first spotted her at about 75 yards. And in the end even though I could have thrown the gun and hit her from that distance, shooting her never even entered my mind and we eventually moved on away from each other and she never even flagged. THAT is hunting and that is the kind of experience and thrill you will never get looking at deer through scopes from half a mile away. Calling that long-range sniper bullshit “hunting” is an insult to hunters and the history of the sport.

  • MaranathaMark

    I think you’ll be very happy with your Armalite AR-50! I have an RCBS press for my .50 BMG reloading. Not sure about the Lee Classic. I would have been disappointed in Safety Harbor as well, were I in your position, but again the AR-50 is a much nicer system! The Armalite muzzle brake is rated as the best or one of the best on the market! Just warn you spotters or observers, cause it will punish folks on either side of you with back blasts! LOL!

  • MaranathaMark

    If I am hunting something that can make a meal out of me like a rogue bear or lion, and I’m hunting from a blind, or if I am hunting a bull elephant in musk that has been terrorizing the neighborhood and I’m hunting from a blind, the .50 BMG is the way I’d go… I want something that will stop them without question. But if I am carrying a rifle all over God’s creation stalking deer or elk, then you’re right, a .50 BMG is way too bulky and heavy, besides being way over powered for the game in question. I don’t trophy hunt for the sake of a trophy, I hunt for food and take trophies when they present themselves. So bear, or big cat hunting, or even elephant hunting for the sake of the thrill, isn’t my cup of tea, they have to be a danger to me or other humans before I hunt such game.

  • Chad Meyer

    I think the gun is going to be a riot. I’ve already got buddies making sure I know they want to shoot it. As if I didn’t know, lol. If I were just starting in reloading I’d consider the big RCBS press. But I’ve been reloading for a while and Im comfortable with my old RCII for most of my rifle loading and my low-volume handgun loading and I’ve got a Dillon 550B set up for my high-volume handgun and .223 loading so really didn’t want to spend big bucks on another high-end press. I think the Lee set-up will work fine for me. If I ever managed to wear out the RCII I might upgrade then. And yes, I was disappointed in Safety Harbor but ultimately they’re the ones that should be disappointed. If they’d simply put a message about SHOT Show on their website or paid someone to answer the phone while they were gone they probably wouldn’t have lost the show and I MAY even have just upgraded to one of their complete rifles instead of the Armalite. But I’ve intermittently lusted after an AR50 for a long time now and everything went just right and just wrong to make it all come together. I’m excited. And so are my buddies, lol. Take care and keep shooting.

  • Chad Meyer

    I don’t think buying is that much of a problem. KEEPING, on the other hand, may be a little more difficult. I might be mistaken but I think that in the case of many firearms up there you can’t actually keep the gun at home. You have to either leave it with the local police or keep it locked up at the range or something along those lines. And if I’m wrong, Canadians, don’t jump in my sh!t. I’m just relating what I think I heard once upon a time and I’m dredging it up from the dim recesses of my mind. If I’m wrong, I’m happy to be wrong because it means your rights aren’t as restricted as I thought.

  • Chad Meyer

    I don’t believe in “too much cartridge”. What I DO believe in is guys using the wrong factory ammunition or bullet charges if they reload. To me, loading a 150-grain bullet to 3500 fps to kill a deer just because you can is pretty ridiculous.

    Especially with the bullet technology we have today and coupled with the fact that a deer is no harder to kill today than it was in 1900. The larger the bullet is to begin with, the less it has to expand to do a given amount of damage.

    The problems begin when guys decide to push max-weight bullets to maximum velocity and use varmint or light game bullets on medium or large game because they think that softball-sized exit wound is “cool”. And honestly most of the time the animal isn’t going to know the difference.

    But being that willing to waste meat using completely inappropriate bullets and ridiculous velocities means that the hunter isn’t really about the hunt. He or she is about the kill and the “wow factor” of seeing how big of a hole he or she can blast in an animal that would be just as dead with half as much energy and expansion.

    Its not about harvesting the animal and respecting the animal and respecting life. It’s about doing as much damage to that animal as possible. I’m not a big fan of using magnum rifles on medium-sized game because in my opinion its just a waste of money in ammunition or powder and bullets and brass.

    But since it’s not my money my opinion is irrelevant. I also can’t figure out why a guy would want to burn out a barrel any faster than necessary shooting maximum loads. And as you said, the recoil alone is a factor. Why abuse yourself? Just because its a magnum cartridge doesn’t mean it has to be loaded to magnum levels.

    You can load a .300 Winchester Magnum to .308/.30-06 levels or even .30-30 levels and save a lot of wear and tear on the gun and the shooter and the shooters wallet. And then when you want to load hot and go vaporize some prairie dogs or something similar, you’ll have that much more life left in your gun and powder left in your supply and money left in your wallet to do so.

    But that’s just the way I see it. My plan with my .50 is going to be the same as my plans with my other guns. Stay on the mild side and go easy on the gun and myself and my component and money supplies the majority of the time. And then when I want to really blow sh!t up it will be even more satisfying.

  • We can and do keep them at home. We’ve got non restricted, restricted, and prohibited class firearms. It’s easy enough to get licenses for the first 2, hard to impossible for the last. Non restricted will be shotguns, rifles, etc, restricted would be pistols and AR-15’s, prohibited would be Full Auto’s, AK-47’s, etc. You can hunt, plink, etc with non restricted, while restricted go to the range and back only.

  • Chad Meyer

    So you actually mean you can and do keep SOME of them at home. And actually just those that your government regards as “safest” and therefore of as little value as possible if you need a dangerous firearm to deal with a dangerous situation at home.
    What are your laws regarding shotguns? You said shotguns can be kept at home but are their barrel length and magazine capacity restrictions? And what about ammunition? What ammunition can you keep at home?
    And I’m kind of laughing at the classes. Prohibited? Except they’re not TRULY “prohibited” because you CAN get a license for them. Yep. That’s about what you get from socialist governments. Laws that don’t actually make a hell of a lot of sense because they’re self-contradictory.
    And by license do you mean a permit to purchase or a permit to own or a permit to shoot or what? Because it seems to me that in a system like that, there is really no such thing as “non-restricted”. Just like prohibited really doesn’t mean prohibited. It just means prohibited for the people unwilling or unable to navigate the process of having the prohibition limited.
    What are the laws regarding private sales of firearms, ammunition, etc? And what age regulations are in place? How about giving firearms as gifts or leaving them to a friend or family member in a will?
    I ask all these questions because someone reading your comment might be incorrectly lead to believe that your gun laws up there aren’t all THAT restrictive and might not be too opposed when the antis in the U.S. propose that we do it like Canada does it.

    I want the real story out there to go along with your somewhat sugar-coated version. And I’m not faulting you for best-casing it. We all want to believe we’re not as screwed by the government as we actually are.

  • THE DUDE

    Ah the energy of a .50 is ridiculous tho, that baby doesn’t even need to hit you and still if close enough can kill you. I’ve seen hajjis literally split in half and heads that looked like they were a watermelon dropped of a 3 story building that were the remnants from 1 FMJ ball .50 BMG that bugger is wicked nasty, it aint leaving a .50 hole in flesh It’s not gonna leave hardly any flesh.

  • THE DUDE

    Shooting a target at 1800 meters is by NO MEANS a simple task, it is an extremely refined skill, plain and simple.

  • uhrwerks

    I’m a broke student, $5 a round is still a fortune after a while. You don’t shoot 1 round. I’d probably shoot 30 minimum. Which is a $150 day outdoors! Saying I have a 50 cal in my arsenal would probably make me one of the coolest guys! LOL. But realistically, I should prob stick to 300 WinMag for the moment.

    I still have a burning desire to build a 50 cal bolt action. But building one and not using it much would be a bit of a waste.

    I was thinking of a Lapua, but didn’t realise when you really crunch the numbers, it’s basically the same cost as a 50 BMG round.

    What I’m curious to know is how popular is 50 cal real is “in the real world?!?!

    Anyone know if rifle sales are up by a considerable amount? Is the AR-50 or Barrett selling a lot more to “civilians”?

    It seems it’s getting more popular because of the Barrett and the military using it. But realistically, anyone know if sales are really going up each year?

    Thanks for the info, pretty interesting! According to your graph/chart the 50cal makes a Lapua look like a 22cal! But in the real world do I really need a firearm that can shoot more than 1000 yards? One day I’ll own a 50 cal… Assuming ammo does jump to $10 a shot!

  • uhrwerks

    Trust me, he wants to shoot it!

    I want to shoot it! (If you’ll let me!)

    I guess thanks for the “heads up”, nothing pisses me off more than poor customer service!

  • uhrwerks

    I’m you know what in my pants because if Billary gets elected, the 1st thing she’ll do is go after firearms. She’s said it multiple times.

    And our friends up north will have more “freedom” than we will.

    I already live in the state will the harshest gun control. Most of it is so stupid. Things like, I can’t have a rife with a stock that has a thumb hole!!! No threaded barrels, no flash hiders, etc.

    That said, “LEO” has NO IDEA what’s legal & what’s not. They always tell me to call the ATF. So I’m sure I can get a stock with a thumb hole and probably NEVER asked a question. That said, there’s no reason for me to risk it & I plan on moving to a “free state” after I graduate and start looking for a job (ie plan to get a job in a different state). All my friends have moved already.

  • uhrwerks

    Not to mention years of practice!

  • uhrwerks

    I agree. If if I ever go to Africa on safari, maybe I’ll take a 50 cal with me.

    But realistically, as others said, your probably not going to shooting more than about 300 yards. So, for a accurate, reasonable/low-cost rifle & round… 300 WinMag and a Remington 700?

    When blueprinted, a Remington 700, which the military uses as a sniper rifle, shots over 1000 yards. If I make my own loads, I can go +P or +P+.

    But anyone have a comment or suggestion for me. As a student who wants something “cost effective” yet still accurate, anything wrong with something like a Winchester 700 & a 300WM round?

    What would you use/buy?

    Thanks

  • MR AWESOME

    These prices are ludicrously inaccurate. I checked and .50 BMG is going for about 2.77. Was there some hidden agenda with this story?

  • MR AWESOME

    Not really. It’s a slow moving round at distance, it punches a bullet size hole.

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